and that's why when the vote occurred on the affordable healthcare act in congress when i was a member of congress bill rolled out and voted on and you saw all the republicans voted against it we believe now and we believed then it's unworkable and unaffordable. that he was why you see so many time delays on the legislation right now. i don't know if you met with secretary sebelius. why do you think. >> i did. >> okay. so why suddenly the -- you know, it's a crack calling you playing politics, southern governors, what provoked that do you think? >> you know, i'm not really sure. did i see secretary sebelius. and i know she has got a really hard job and i have talked to her many, many times as the chair of the national governor's association. each governor has it to do what they think is best for their own state. we all have unique circumstances. we all have our own political philosophy. and i choose, as governor of oklahoma, and as a republican conservative governor to do one thing. others choose to do other things. but, you know, i think you have to put the blame back to where it belo